Other free camping opportunities
Many RVers stay the night in non-traditional free camping areas those not officially designated "campgrounds." Here are some relevant comments and suggestions on this subject submitted by our readers.
The following businesses most often allow RVers to spend the night.
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EDITOR'S NOTE: In a survey on our web site, we asked our readers "How many times in 1999 did you stay overnight at Wal-Mart?" Of the 227 respondents, one-third had stayed at least one night, with 23% staying three or more times.
Each paragraph below is from a different person. Most comments have been edited for space.
Many Wal-Mart stores now have "No Overnight RV Parking" signs. Be sure to circle the lot and check ALL parking lot entrances. Some with signs: Arizona -- east Tucson and Casa Grande, and in Oregon in Newport.We were also told of other Wal-Marts with signs.
I called the corporate offices of Wal-Mart in Arkansas and asked what its overnight RV parking policy was. They were very friendly and said it was company policy to allow Rv'ers overnight parking. They also said it would be advisable to check in with the store manager when you arrive as a courtesy. However, they said if we ran into a store that refused us we were to report this to them. We have stayed in a number of Wal-Marts and have been welcomed with open arms. Management even alerts security to keep and eye on the rigs during a stay. If you have a wife like mine (Wal-Mart road atlas in hand) she always needs something from the store. If we stay in a Super Wal-Mart we always hit the deli for a good chicken dinner with potato salad and cole slaw.
We drove the motorhome to the local Wal-Mart last night and got lucky and found a parking spot right by the door. After parking, but before getting out, the greeter rushed out and knocked on our door. He told me that I was very welcome to camp in their lot for the night, and he was ready to show me the designated area, where there were already several RVs. Just in case anyone wonders about Wal-Mart's attitude toward RVers, this encounter should clear the air. Wal-Mart has figured out how to get an otherwise under-used asset (the far end of the parking lot) to produce revenue by encouraging RVers to park. They know that we'll almost always run into the store for some goodies. Smart, very smart.
I have spent several nights in Wal Mart parking lots. We usually park then go inside and pick up then odds and ends you always seem to need. We usually stick to the "Super" Wal Marts as they are 24 hour stores. Others I know do the same and none of us have had any problems. I spoke to a trucker who drives for Wal Mart who told me that he likes seeing RVs when he arrives as he feels he is not all alone on the lot while he waits for his delivery time.
Last year we traveled from the west coast to the Canadian Maritime Provinces. We found that Wal-Marts were happy to have us stop there overnight. There were very few times we didn't buy something. An inventive traveler can find places to stop without a fee -- school yards, gasoline stations, rest stops, club members yards, etc. -
We have stayed at numerous Wal-Marts and have only had one tell us we couldn't, in Vancouver, BC. But they called around to the other area Wal-Marts to find one nearby where we could stay. It was in Surrey. We have never had a probem with any of the Wal-Marts. We always check first and make sure we do our shopping there too. We always take out the garbage bags and walk around our area picking up trash and then taking it to a dumpster.
On a 30-day trip though 12 states, we spent 10 nights on Wal-Mart 's and Big Kmart's parking lots and felt welcome everywhere except in Florida, we were told that campers used the parking lots like a real campgroud. We ate and shopped in every store, with pleasure.
A Wal-Mart or similar retail parking lot does not provide a "campsite." It is still a parking lot where, with the retailers approval, an RVer can get a few hours sleep. It also provides an opportunity to do some restocking and other shopping. For example, we came through a Texas town recently that had a free campground. But we bypassed it to go on to a Wal-Mart a mile away. We didn't want to "camp." We wanted to do a little shopping and get some sleep. It was just easier to do our shopping and then get some sleep where we were rather than doubling back to the free CG, or, for that matter, going on to a commercial CG. We didn't need swimming pool, showers or any other amenities that come with the fee or the extra time it takes to get checked in. So, it's not always a matter of $$. As in this case, sometimes it is just more convenient.
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Flying J Truck Stops
It is a well known fact that Flying J Truck Stops are RV-friendly. But if you use the truck stops to stay overnight, by all means fill your tank, get propane, eat a meal or buy something in the convenience store. Please don't abuse this good thing or it will be taken away from us.
I recently completed a 12,000-mile trip in my '84 Champion motorhome, which started out in Canton, New York and took me all the way to San Diego. I always tried to arrange my stops at the Flying J's. Their gas prices were always better than anyone else and they will even give you a discount card (not much, just one cent a gallon.) I also filled up my LP tanks there. Most of them had a separate area for overnite RV parking, away from the semi trucks. It was always a pleasure stopping there. --
I have stayed at a Flying J once, but have attempted to many times. I've found arriving late pretty much guarantees you won't be staying there. They fill up in front. -
Other Truck Stops
"We have been on the road for three years now and have not spent one night in a Walmart. When we travel cross country we stop in truckstops and have not been turned down yet. We have a book called Truckers Friend (buy it at most Truck Stops and at Camping World) and they list all truckstops that welcome RVs. We usually get in the back of parking lot and set up and have from time to time set up satellite. If you need to run a generator who will notice? The only problem is having a cattle carrier pull in and park next door. Keep Low Profile and do business at establishment where you are parking. We also use the Trucker's Friend to locate restaurants that have table phones and we will have dinner and get our e-mail at the same time. Works great."
Camping World stores
I contacted the company's headquarters and was told that some stores do let you stay overnight, but to check with each store. You can find a listing of stores and maps at the Camping World website.
Most camping worlds allow free overnight parking. The one in San Marcus, Calif., just inland from Oceanside in Southern California is completely fenced in and no overnight camping is allowed; they sell RVs there and it is in a crime area so that may be the reason. We had to park in the Sam's Club parking lot nearby -- the Wal-Mart didn't allow overnight parking there either. The Camping World in Mesa, Ariz., at the Mesa Street exit allows overnight parking.
We travel in our motorhome about 7-8 months a year. Camping World is a good overnight spot. Like Wal-Mart, they figure you'll buy something also.
Cracker Barrel stores
Although some RVers report staying the night at Cracker Barrel Country Stores, the company's policy is that overnight stays are NOT permitted. Parking in the lots during business hours is okay.
Kmart, factory outlet stores & shopping centers
Kmart allows over night parking. As a matter of fact, they were the first to provide the overnight camping opportunity.
Kmart allows overnight parking. I normally ask the store manager if he minds if I spend the night. I have never been turned down. Most will tell me they will let their security staff know so they can keep an eye on my rig during the night. I always park off the beaten path and never leave any trash. If it's a Super Center, then my dinner will be its fried chicken, potato salad and cole slaw. Yum, yum. --
Once we talked to the mall management at Grapevine Mills inGrapevine, Texas and asked if we could park in their lot since we were shopping, having dinner and seeing a movie. They said fine and even had the security guards watch out for us. The next day the guard came by and asked us if we had a nice time.
Other camping areas
Highway rest areas
EDITOR'S NOTE: We recently polled the readers of this web site, asking them "How often do you stay the night at a highway rest stop? Of the 334 respondents, 13% reported they stayed often, 31% once in awhile, 19% hardly ever, and 37% never.
About 20 years ago I was traveling by myself and got tired while driving from Florida to California. At a small, remote rest area, I parked the motorhome by itself and sacked out. About 4 a.m. I heard a car drive up. Four doors slammed and as they had parked close by, I was awakened. They came over by my motorhome door and started to whisper. By that time, in the dark I had grabbed my Remington 12 gauge auto shotgun and snuck up on the other side of the door. Silence. Finally one of them whispered "Let's do it" and grabbed the doorknob. Simultaneously, I pushed the button on my shotgun receiver and the LOUD magazine slammed shut. I then yell something like "Get the #$%@!! out of here!!" and they did, taking off like crazy. So did I. I have never parked at quiet rest stops since that time and only stop at campgrounds or BUSY truck stops.
We bought the Rest Area book you have advertised on your site. We have stayed in rest areas many times, but only ones that list that overnight parking is okay. We have never had a problem. We also look for other RVers and park as near them as we can. We seldom stay more than 8 to 12 hours. --
Situation awareness is the key to survival. The highway rest area ranks right up there with a watering hole in the middle of the desert. Stake it out and sooner or later lunch will show up.There is no good reason that RVers should get themselves in a position to have to visit, let alone stay in a rest area at night. The April 26, 2000 issue of Good Sam magazine has an article on full timing it, with a section devoted to RVers and guns. The author guesses that approximately 50% of RVers have a shotgun or pistol on board. None the less, stay away from the watering hole.
Some free (or very cheap campgrounds) happen to be at Elks Club Lodges. Many of them have RV hookups at either free, or very cheap rates. Most all have nice restaurants and lounges along with other activities (music,dancing,etc.). These benefits are for Elks Club members only, however, once a member, you can use the facilities all over the country, and the Elks are a very civic-minded organization and contribute to many worthwhile activities.
I've never run across any Elks Lodges where camping is free. Most have increased their prices over the prices listed in the books or they ask for a donation. The campgrounds are a large money raiser for the lodges. Some of the members work very hard building and maintaining the camp spots. --
Flying J and Union 76 truck stops publish flyers that list what they offer RVers --propane, dump station, ect. and encourage them to spend the night. I have made it a habit that if I spend the night I spend money at the business. I always need fuel. And if not fuel I purchase a meal. More and more truck service centers realize that RVers mean money and offering the RVer the same service as the truckers increases their botton line.
In 1995 I saw an article in a Thousand Trails magazine about free camping at Union 76 truck stops. I wrote them and they sent me a brochure listing all their truck stops, what they offered the RVer, like propane, dump station, etc. The brochure stated very plainly that RVers were welcome to spend the night. During my travels I have stayed at Union 76s along the way, always buying fuel or a meal for being allowed to stay in their property. I believe it is the right thing to do and they know that by tapping into the ever-growing RV market there is money to be made by offering them a free place to stay. The same welcome mat is offered by Flying J and AmBest truck stops. Their corporate offices sent me literature, each with a map of their truck stops and what they offer the RVer.
When parking overnight in a truck stop with an RV, use the front parking lot where the cars are. It's quieter, safer, and more convenient. It's safer because you lesson the chance of a big truck backing into you in the middle of the night. There are a lot of new drivers out there in big rigs now that have a hard time parking when rested, and a terrible time parking in the middle of the night.
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